I was not there, but I have to wonder about his shot placement. Also, obviously it isnt something you can quickly change like a regular adjustable sight setup. But! These are 110-grain bullets and they do not get to 1,000 fps out of a 2-inch barrel. Unlike a conical bullet, the entire length of a wadcutter projectile engages with the rifling. Also, I recently watched the Paul Harrel video on why he doesnt like Hyper (boutique and defense-specific) ammo. Bravo! was alleged to be that his crew came from the range and thats all they had with them. The first question were going to answer is what is a wadcutter? Thats easy. No substitutions or transfers to a third party are allowed. How could I not have noticed earlier? Here, we take a broader look than just precision. I now have a M637 Airweight. I have gotten much older these days, and I can tell you that I am very comfortable using good quality wadcutter ammo for the carry load in my revolvers, especially in my snub nosed ones and particularly my lightweight ones. Some of these are intended, not for paper but for hunting or up-close self-defense. Plus, these modern wonder bullets can only be made on an industrial scale, by a major manufacturer. Normally, a loss of this magnitude wouldnt be all that critical for a handgun round, but in the case of the .38 Special fired from a 2 revolver, that loss can move the bullet out of its performance envelope and rob the bullet of the minimum energy needed to perform as its designed. Its also good to keep in mind that over the last 110+ years, the .38 Special in the wadcutter and plain semi wadcutter configurations have more than likely planted more bad guys in the M.E.s office than all the boutique loads that have come out in the last 40 years. Though the wadcutter is not extremely rare, it is still a relatively specialized bullet type that is only utilized in a few different cartridges. Whats not to like about that. The 148 grain wadcutter is as soft-shooting as it gets in .38 Special. Box 1926, Escondido, CA 92033. Wadcutters can clearly cut the line of a higher scoring ring and in a sport where matches are won or lost by a single point, this matters. The added cross-sectional density made the bullet stable over greater range, also. Excellent, timely and informative article! Along with this thought, I confess to shooting a WFN lead boolit loading of the 180gr variety in my revolvers, simply because it is VERY controllable in my revolvers for me, along with being more accurate than I am on occasion. Thetypical, low power, soft lead, target load does around 600-700 fps out of a snubby revolver, and penetrates around 16 inches in bare, calibrated gelatin. An alternative idea came to mind. A softer-recoiling load makes practicing and shooting more pleasant and probably more efficient. If youre 2+ inches off at 7 with the 2 gun, I wonder what that would look like at 25, too. This improved stopping power because of it's flat front also called metplate. Your link has been automatically embedded. A plated semi wadcutter is simply a lead bullet washed in copper as opposed to having a thick copper jacket. Thats exactly what I did with my 442. Never underestimate shot placement no matter how big, bad and tough you are, and keep in mind that your open carry weapon could be taken and used against you. (II) Limit one entry per household. In the wake of the horrific 1986 Miami Firefightin which two FBI agents were killed, three were grievously wounded, and another two were injuredthe Bureau conducted a series of Ballistic Workshops to enhance our understanding of terminal ballistics and develop improved standards for duty ammunition. Note on defensive distances with my subbies: I have a somewhat defined area or bubble around me, my wife, other people where I will defend that bubble with a firearm. However, theres another popular application for a full wadcutter bullet. Get the 76th edition of the World's Greatest Gun Book. All entries must be received by giveaway end date. the most accurate load was a 185 Hornady XTP over a starting load of bullseye. Our RevolverGuy didnt need the biggest and the baddest bullet on the block. No substitutions or transfers to a third party are allowed. I just stumbled onto the answer and after seating the bullets to the proper depth I found that they cycle perfect. Thanks for your coverage of this fine design. Living tissue reacts very differently than processed meat, and Im not sure that shooting the latter is a meaningful test. Berrys .38 cal. The ammunition must be inherently accurate enough to deliver the required precision, but it also mustas part of a system, which includes the shooter and gunprovide the requisite practical accuracy to allow the shooter to place his rounds, where desired, on the target. Why am I not carrying this wonder-round? I really can shoot wadcutters and be taken seriously? An inch at 7 for the 3, so what about at 25? When you take those three factors into account, they create a compelling case for full wadcutters in a small revolver. At 80, my steadiness and recoil tolerance have decreased noticeably. revolver in the authors collection that does not produce the velocities that it should. That being said, the bullseye shooters in our area use mainly 185 JHP bullets by montana gold pushed by 231 powder to about 800 fps. You cannot paste images directly. Get the latest news and reviews from Gundigest.com. However, the wadcutter can also do things that they cant. Philippe, thank you for writing from Uruguay! A semi-wadcutter bullet was also the basis for the famous FBI load a 158 grain lead semi-wadcutter bullet, that deleted the flat nose in favor of a hollow point. So, after some discussions and some testing, we found a better solution for our friend, and that solution was about as far from the fire-breathing Magnum as you could get. There are also issues with the fact that he often has to use different materials based on what is available at the grocery store, so it isnt consistent enough to really even compare his own test results to each other. Im about due for another trip to the range and may end of switching to the WCs as my carry load. The flat nose punches a clean hole in the target, rather than stretching/tearing it like a round nose bullet would, and the sharp shoulder enlarges the hole neatly, allowing easy and accurate scoring of the target. Chief among them is ease of reloading. The flat shape of the nose is the primary feature of the wadcutter. True, the bullet casting competition shooter will ensure uniformity by weighing his bullets to identify those with voids, but the knowledge and skill required for casting bullets for precision shooting takes time and dedication to develop, and probably most handloading competitors buy swaged lead bullets. When a hollow-point hunting bullet strikes a soft target, the pressure created in the pit forces the material (usually lead) around the inside edge to expand outwards, increasing the axial diameter of the projectile as it passes through.This process is commonly referred to as mushrooming, because the resulting shape, a widened, rounded nose on top of a cylindrical base, typically resembles a . This makes for EDC problems. For IPSC major 230 FMJ, LRN, black bullets are the best IMO.. At 50$ per 1000 rounds though, how can you beat shooting lead if your gun runs reliable w/ it? Thank you Sir! A member of Team Taurus, Team Bushnell and Team Hoppes, Harrison used a Bushnell reflex sight to help extend her streak of consecutive Ladies titles at the match, which was recently revived by Doug Koenig. My suggestion is to step up to a 158 grain cast semi-wad cutter with a bit more velocity. Theres some pretty serious professionals out there who rely on it in their own guns, mostly because it has little recoil and theyre not convinced that the terminal ballistics are significantly handicapped. They wont take up much room, and youd have all the bases covered. Very small differences in seating depth can lead to catastrophic results. Thats why I definitely think that wadcutters are good for self defense. I could almost hear the sigh of relief through the wires when I told our friend that it wasnt necessary to carry Magnum ammo in a Magnum revolver, and that I wouldnt do it myself in the Ruger LCR. Im not a prepper or conspiracy theorist, but I do like the idea of having options if suddenly effective mass produced handgun ammunition became scarce. And on YouTube the MAC channel (Military Arms Channel) did a comparison between a .357 magnum in a snubbie and 9mm in a snubbie. Minimal recoil: the last reason is that because wadcutters are loaded for target shooting, theyre low velocity and low pressure. I am PROUD to shoot wheel guns. No Magnums for me in a lightweight snub, thank you very much. Last trip to the range the 158s were feeling stout. These can be too easily mistaken for fired and empty cases. Mail-in entries accepted; send postcards (no envelopes) to: American Handgunner Magazine, GOM May/June 2023, P.O. Mike (nMW). Im just not sure that doing so makes any real difference, and of course, liability. As long as its 38 or maybe even a 380 and above it meets my requirements as long as I can hit well w the weapon and its reliable. Im thrilled the wadcutters are working so well for you, and I pity the bad guy who finds himself on the wrong end of your LCR. Semi-wadcutters generally have a shorter bearing surface than traditional wadcutters. Unlike autoloaders that basically need a round nose fmj bullet or something that tries to simulate it. The ammunition must be sufficiently affordable and available to merit consideration; 5. Reloading. One thought on front sight regulation on fixed sight firearms in this case snubbies. Its my favorite cartridge for pest control around the farm. However as a couple other members pointed out I've switched over to the RNFP in 200gr. When I was snubby shopping one of the big requirements for me was a replaceable front sight blade, so I could adjust the sight with a file and not be stuck with the decision forever. Millions of factory and handloaded wadcutters were used. Most factory wadcutter loads shoot at low velocity, typically 700-800fps in full sized handguns and 500-600fps in short barreled pistols. The earliest wadcutter on commercial record is the c. 1900 Himmelwright, still available from Matts Bullets. I & II; Gun Digest Big Fat Book of the .45 ACP, Gun Digest Book of the AR-15, Gun Digest Book of the AK and SKS, Gun Digest Book of the Glock and Gunsmithing: Pistols and Revolvers, among other titles. i was using mixed brass so that could have been it. It's about scoring. And if Jim Cirillo thought it would do the business, thats good enough for me. The wadcutter can be fired in flyweight, alloy/polymer guns without causing you pain and physical damage, and can also be safely fired in guns that are not rated for +P pressures (like many older Smith & Wesson and Colt revolver models). The concave sides reduce the bullet weight, and thus the recoil, while keeping the overall length of the bullet long enough to feed reliably in a semi-automatic pistol such as the M1911 commonly found in bullseye competitions. Winners must respond within 30 days of receiving notification or an alternate winner will be selected. Also, is there any real difference in shooting lead versus shooting plated FMJ? All my other guns are all steel and +p rated. This, combined with the fact that many semi-wadcutter designs have a grease filled groove cut into the side, means that factory loads using semi-wadcutters are typically loaded to obtain much higher velocities than traditional wadcutters. You can reload wadcutters to the first cannelure thereby making them a distinctively loaded cartridge, but then you place yourself at the risk of being questioned by a prosecutor before a jury for using exotic reloaded ammunition because youre clearly a nutcase that was looking for trouble. 148-grain HBWC bullet. The FBI protocol also penalizes a bullet that penetrates too deeply. lead wadcutter; 158-gr. In any event the 9mm was easier to control and had better ballistics than the magnum out of a snub nosed revolver. I just cant thank you, Justin, and Steve enough for your efforts .. seriously. It's fairly cheap and not as much lead to scrub off the bore. The 45 Colt just grouped tighter and seemed to be more accurate. i don't notice much difference between SWC or FMJ. Federal took a different approach. Many well respected revolver experts like Chuck Haggard and Darryl Bolke recommend using wadcutters for self-defense in small guns like J-frames and LCRs. Hope to never have to use these reloads for their intended purpose, but I feel they will not let me down . Some of the low recoil hollowpoints that are commonly touted as solutions for recoil-sensitive shooters were considered, but found to be lacking. In the summer, I used to carry a S&W Chiefs Special. Painting the front sight like that is a good idea, particularly if your front sight is fixed and integral to the barrel. To solve this dilemma and keep recoil at a reasonable level, some designs use a lighter and faster projectile to promote expansion, or use some clever engineering (most often, with a light-for-caliber bullet) to get the bullet to open up out of a short barrel. Youll find an interesting and detailed history of the wadcutter bullet in Chapter 11 of From Ingot to Target: A Cast Bullet Guide for Handgunnersby Glen E. Fryxell and Robert L. Applegate. Two inches, single action, 25 yards, with Critical Defense 110-grain FTX bullets. For progressive reloaders with an automated bullet feed, the double-end wadcutter (DEWC) was designed, simply a cylinder beveled on each end. The heavyweights top out at the normal for .38 Special weight, 158 grains. Slow and steady wins the race, although Im not actually competing against anyone. Im confident the information is accurate, however. Come join the discussion about optics, gunsmithing, styles, reviews, accessories, classifieds, and more! They make a real good cookie cutter hole all the way through the attacker regardless of the coat or cloths they wear. A semiwadcutter (SWC) or flat-nose is a type of all-purpose bullet commonly used in revolvers. Associated taxes and fees will be the responsibility of the winner. It seems to me that the larger meplat of the RF would make it a better stopper, for either 4-legged or 2-legged animals. I just like the nice round holes :biglaugh: 200 LSWC using H&G #68 mold is a super reliable projectile in all of my 45 ACP handguns. In police work, thats called a clue. Wadcutters will strike closer to point of aim than light turbo speed bullets until manufacturers give us front sight height options (Too much to hope that new .38 revolvers would ship with 2 front sights- a 100 gr. The more I think about this subject, the more I am inclined to switch to wadcutters. The shooter admitted to being uncomfortable with the recoil, and had left the majority of the box of +Ps unfired. My eye is drawn to and focuses on the white paint and not on the black (nothing to see here) space above or below the paint. Combined with the bullet cutting such a nice clean hole and their legendary accuracy, lots of folks just like it more. Merlin, I have a TC contender barrel in 45 acp with 2.5-7 power scope on it. This bullet is shaped similarly to a round nose flat point and has a hollow nose that is usually covered with a thin layer of lead . How resistant to recoil are you? I havent bought .22 LR ammunition in years. Factory warranties may apply in some cases. CONS : Slow bullet velocity. Justin. Thank you again for your work and keeping revolvers alive! Total Metal Jacket. Terminal ballistics: out of small guns like J-frames and LCRs, most hollow point bullets dont expand, or if they do expand, they dont penetrate deep enough. SWC fly better at the longer ranges, 35 yds and further. - Bren. However, I bet the mid-range swaged wad cutter would fail the meat test. Which Im sure had something to do w the Miami shooting of 86. Sometimes bringing them back to factory specs is harder then it should be. I have to confess that Im not familiar with Pauls meat test, but if it involves shooting butchered chunks of meat, then Im going to have to agree with Stuart. Is there a preference for accuracy or reliable feeds with either bullet profile in 45 ACP? Thanks Riley! One inescapable fact about the wadcutter is that its profile makes it more difficult to load into the chambers of a revolver. I suspect they started slow and just get faster and faster and faster LOL,,,, bill i give,,, SWC will slice a nicer hole,, and going faster will definitely open things up,,,i haven't done any bullseye stuff for a long time. If questioned about the non-regulation ammunition, they simply planned to claim the wadcutters were left in the guns accidentally, after training. Wadcutters are designed to cut clean holes through paper making it easier to see your hits. Ive bought into it. Additionally, the bullet is usually all lead and has no jacket. dominated the Strasbourg Racoon Tests in every tested caliber. But for Every Day Carry it would be bulky. They offer a full-diameter cutting shoulder, and yet they penetrate as well as anything else out there. I wasnt the ballistic nut and as informed as now and that it was just me having an issue with qualification which was always more difficult than with the service 4 inch Model 10. I know youre a responsible shooter and value safety like we do. . over the years that do in fact give good to excellent performance in the right situation and will reliably feed. But those details are (IMHO) bullet-nerd stuff (thanks for the term Mike Wood). What a great community of shooters we have here. It feels stout in the 640, but is quite shootable. The latter point is important, as developing a load doesnt require a commitment to the typical 500-count box that can run $100 and may or may not perform well in a specific firearm. Thanks again for the honest and reliable information. Load your guns cylinder with wadcutters for carry, but choose a load with a more friendly ogive for your speedloader or ammunition strip. 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